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US Military and sodomy laws

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WASHINGTON (UPI)- A military appeals court is hearing a case Tuesday that could strip anti sodomy laws from the military code of justice and extend the privacy protections mandated by the U.S. Supreme Court in June to the sex lives of military personnel. ...

At issue, Spinner says, is whether military personnel shed their constitutional protections when they don a uniform. While the military is bound by Supreme Court decisions, it has some latitude in interpretation because of its recognized interest in assuring "good order and discipline."

"Where the lines are drawn between what the government argues and what we are arguing -- nothing that distinguishes sodomy statute in the military from the comparable law that existed in Texas and some other states," Spinner told UPI. "The same rules should apply to military."

The military is expected to argue that it needs to be able to prosecute for sodomy -- oral and anal sex -- between any two partners whether same sex or even married -- to maintain order.

Military Anti Sodomy Law Under Review

Richard Evans Lee
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Well, I wouldn't get my shorts all in a bundle if I were you. No one can make oral sex illegal, but they can look at it on paper and think they did if they like. Anal entry is not sex. It is idiotic, but the military has to be run right. If I think I am being protected by someone who is not right with me I have the right to deny that person that job and role. I decide that, and it is MY money after all. It is like me hiring someone to be my personal guard, and no different. There is the freedom to tell someone to look elsewhere for work AND role. Thank you for allowing me to comment.

Posted by: Doug | April 16, 2004 11:13 PM

Believe it or not, I would like to add, that there is a consequence for intimidating others to make them conform to one's own "ideals" (maybe ideal, maybe less). I just wanted to add that it just won't work to go around busting everyone's mouth for their freedom. I do not advocate homosexuality on any level, but I must also add that I do not believe homosexual advocates care to acknowledge that they are speaking on my level. It does not mean that they need to realize they are speaking on a higher or lower level, but many advocates of this thing we call homosexuality just don't want to confront it. I am just as enraged when someone is treated wrongly as anyone else, but that is not to be associated with the ability of people to first forgive themselves, and then gain acceptance without being judged. It is possible, and I think the underlying tragedy is that people are more capable of being petty than they are capable of being communicated with. As far as what the military is doing, well more and more they seem to prove that their giving orders is the only way of thinking they listen to. I admire the military, but I want to just say, I can admire them and criticize them at the same time. Speaking as a heterosexual, I do not associate anything sexual with military. Sure, they say you can laid by joining, but the level of sex you get from that attitude is pathetic. So how can anyone who is what they call "gay" believe that there is only the stubborn resistence they allow to prevail. I would say more but I have had this discussion before, and it is usually not even worth it, and more easily misunderstood. Think about it. In addition to all that which may not set well with you, I just want to point out that someone who is beaten and persecuted for doing these things is of my concern to me than these arguments about the military. There is a matter of consequence for assaulting these sorts of (you-know-whats) and they would be ill-fated to ever piss my sort off. I just get discouraged trying to explain how the act of homosexuality is wrong every time I feel I must do so. And what I am talking about is women. The growing problem with women is that a lot women feel that they can be bisexuals without being bisexuals. What the hell is that supposed to mean? I hope you take my thoughts seriously, because they are not given unfairly.

Posted by: Doug | April 22, 2004 11:54 PM

Sorry, I couldn't edit my last post, but I am hitting the boose and I hope it wasn't too sloppy. I just want people to realize, there is no reason to discuss this. I just can't stand it when people feel like I do not take care of them, and if they are wrong, I will certainly let them know it. I am in the military, and I am respected, and I would die for even someone I am mad at. I am mad at you!

Posted by: Doug | April 23, 2004 12:56 AM

Don't really see how this has anything to do with the military's sodomy policies.

Posted by: Richard | April 23, 2004 02:04 AM

Hi Richard, My name is Nicole and I am a journalism student doing a story on sodomy laws in the United States, particularly in Missouri. I was wondering if you or anyone you know has ever been affected by an anti-sodomy law applying to homosexual sex. If you know anyone who has, could you please put them in contact with me as soon as possible? It would be a huge help, and I'm sure they'd want to tell their story. Thanks, Nicole

Posted by: Nicole | May 11, 2004 03:42 PM

How do you feel?

Feel free to share your feelings about US Military and sodomy laws. Please stick to the theme of the entry. Disagreement is fine. Homophobia, racism, and kindred expressions of hatred will be deleted. This site is one of my hobbies. I genuinely enjoy hearing from people and hate moderating or killing comments. Forthright disagreement is fine as long as it is civil.
My thanks,
Richard

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