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L-Arginine & sex: don't waste your money

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You can buy L-Arginine more cheaply. Regardless of how much you pay for it, or the way the amino acid is ingested it won't improve your sex life. This is an old scam revived in shiny new bottles.

BELLEVILLE, Ill., Oct. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Women's sexual enjoyment has long been ignored by doctors, pharmaceutical companies and nutritional supplement manufacturers regarding products to help women better enjoy sex. Yet, there are numerous products available on the market exclusively formulated for their male counterparts.

Vivaxl's unique effervescent delivery system contains a precise dose of 2800 mg of L-Arginine. L-Arginine is an amino acid that has significant biological benefits for both men and women. L-Arginine aids in the release of histamines, which is a requirement to achieve orgasm.

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Richard Evans Lee
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I am confused.First, I read Sex & L-Argine dont waste your money it does'nt work.Then you advertise a product named Vivaxl's loaded with L-Arginine for orgasms.Last time I checked, orgasms had something to do with sex.

Posted by: confused | December 13, 2003 12:19 PM

Huh? I'm not advertising anything. I'm quoting a press release for the product that prompted me to post the note that taking the amino acid won't give you better sex. Nowhere, on any of my weblogs do I make any attempt to get anyone to buy anything. I do try to note miracle quack cures that will waste your money.

Posted by: Richard | December 13, 2003 04:19 PM

well I didn't think you were selling anything, I’m not sure what the first person meant but, I think the whole thing about women not getting orgasms depends on the woman and her partner, from what I hear most men don’t spend enough time for her to get out a whoo hoo much less and orgasm. Maybe I’m wrong. I dated women for years, and then I met my husband and turned him into one! No I didn't make him girly just really great in bed! I sure wish I could get him to do laundry though! j/k

Posted by: raena | December 15, 2003 06:55 AM

As a guy who sleeps with guys I know there's nothing less enjoyable sexually than a guy in a rush.

Posted by: Richard | December 15, 2003 07:18 AM

I've done a lot of reading about L-arginine and other related (AAK, etc.), and it's getting big play in the muscle magazines for its ability to increase nitric oxide production in the body. That particular function seems to be supported by the science; now, whether that translates into any improvement of function relating to sex (i.e. penis enlargment, increased genital stimulation, etc.), I don't know because I've not seen any reputable journal articles/studies that discuss those effects specifically. However, if the nitric oxide precursor theory of arginine is correct, and if it can increase NO levels in the blood (with all that entails), then it would seem that muscle size (maybe penis size?) could be affected. How much? Who knows? But, if someone has some actual research to look at, (and not just commercial site hype), I'd be interested. (May I post my "public" email address for that? If "yes," then it's paulknox73@hotmail.com) I'd be interested in hearing more about this, and especially Richard's theory of why arginine (or the products that tout its' uses) are ipso facto a "scam." Brad

Posted by: Brad | January 6, 2004 01:55 PM

These amazing scientific breakthroughs made by people who sell stuff are made and re-made every several years. Nowadays with research funding so low they can pay university research scientists to 'prove' that their amazing miracle product works! And pay people to appear in ads and testimonials. Thanks to the placebo effect a few souls will think it really worked. Others will say "what is wrong with me" that it didn't work for me! If you must buy it go get it from a decent, cheap supplier of bulk amino acids. Don't be conned by these 'unique delivery systems.' Muscle magazines because the cost of the photography is so high and the newstand sales/return ratio is so bad are in bed with supplement peddlars when they aren't owned outright by them. Be it the obvious sharks or more sublte ones like 'Dr.' Michael Colgan whose doctorate isn't in a physical or biological science.

Posted by: Mr. Science | January 6, 2004 06:37 PM

Has anyone tried ProSolution pills. Do they really work? Do they create dependency?

Posted by: Alex | January 13, 2004 01:27 PM

Where do you get your information? Your claim that Arginine does not work is not substantiated with any data or research - is it just your 'educated opinion'? I was using viagra (with success), but now take arginine. The effects are certainly not the same, but it certainly helps and I do not feel any near term side effects (as with viagra). As far as attributing the desired effect to the placebo effect, I'm quite sure it is not. My results are far too consistent (and on occasion too dramatic). Also, I will say that some brands seem to be of much lower quality than others, but I don't know if this forum is the place to discuss that.

Posted by: Jerry | January 15, 2004 01:52 PM

I beg to differ with you about your L-arginine. Maybe your quaility is just crappy. I sell a new product to hit the market Feb 5 2004. it is called M2-Arginine Patent#6,608,109. It is F.D.A. approved. It has been 20 years in the making and is going to explode the mucscle building,weight loss, and sexual performance for men and women industry. There are 15 claims that can be said aobut this product that have been aproved by the F.D.A. I am truly excited about it and would love to talk to anyone about it. My e-mail adress is randiandtimi@attbi.com. I can email you a cd to listen to A.S.A.P. Sincerely timi Teeples

Posted by: Timi Teeples | January 16, 2004 05:46 PM

Show me proof of FDA approval. They haven't approved it.

Posted by: Science Wizard | January 16, 2004 06:02 PM

It has been aprroved. It can't be stamped FDA approved if it is not. You can purcahse a canister starting on the 5th of Feb. Anyone interested e-mail me. Do your homework Mr. Science Wizard! Being Gay you and your friends should love this product!

Posted by: Timi Teeples | January 20, 2004 11:07 AM

Benefits and functions attributed to something simply imply attribution, nothing more.

Patent claims are assertions made in a patent application. Asserting something doesn't make it true.

That something is essential for a function doesn't mean that more will improve functioning. Filling up your gas tank doesn't make it run any faster than when the tank is only half full.

Supplement makers can make all sorts of "structure/function" claims as long as they don't claim to treat or cure disease.

FDA approval means all sorts of things but not necessarily that a product will do what you are expecting. The DSHEA is loose and manufacturer-friendly.

A product can say that it supports the immune system as long as it doesn't say something more specific like "supports the body's anti-viral capabilities."

FDA's own Overview of Dietary Supplements

Do manufacturers or distributors of dietary supplements have to tell FDA or consumers what evidence they have about their product's safety or what evidence they have to back up the claims they are making for them?

No, except for rules described above that govern "new dietary ingredients," there is no provision under any law or regulation that FDA enforces that requires a firm to disclose to FDA or consumers the information they have about the safety or purported benefits of their dietary supplement products.

Posted by: Richard | January 20, 2004 12:25 PM

I see no value in debating with people who sell L-Arginine, hence this entry is closed.

Posted by: Richard Evans Lee | January 20, 2004 12:28 PM

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